Building with twig without building privilege

[BigDave]

I've noticed in the Ban appeals section that a lot of it includes people twigging into bases. 

Could the ability to build twig without privilege be removed? There shouldn't be a need for it on these PvE servers, either you have privilege and can build or you don't and you're griefing. I understand it's place in PvP but not so much PvE. 

I imagine that's going to be an issue on Pure, where remaining on community tab would likely preclude modifications. On other servers though it could be an option?

[Postanou]

Then how do players build their first base on day 1? You need to place at least 1 twig foundation before you can place a TC, although I, as many do, build a rough outline in twig before placing down a TC.

The absolute simple solution to this is placing a TC in your base. No one can twig onto your base if you have a TC inside. I believe that most of the recent bans for twigging onto bases have occurred on Pure servers. I bet balls to bones that none of the bases that were raided had a TC down. Stupid stupid stupid.

[amsullivan]

2 hours ago, Postanou said:

The absolute simple solution to this is placing a TC in your base. No one can twig onto your base if you have a TC inside. I believe that most of the recent bans for twigging onto bases have occurred on Pure servers. I bet balls to bones that none of the bases that were raided had a TC down. Stupid stupid stupid.

Since Pure is like vanilla Rust, players can twig onto bases even if a TC is down and locked.

I may have missed it, but I haven't seen any bans come through involving twigged bases that was from another server other than the Pure ones. Pure used to have a plugin that prevented this, but we cannot anymore due to our status on the community tab. On the modded servers, this wouldn't be an issue so I wouldn't be surprised if that is already implemented.

[BigDave]

10 hours ago, Postanou said:

Then how do players build their first base on day 1? You need to place at least 1 twig foundation before you can place a TC, although I, as many do, build a rough outline in twig before placing down a TC.

The absolute simple solution to this is placing a TC in your base. No one can twig onto your base if you have a TC inside. I believe that most of the recent bans for twigging onto bases have occurred on Pure servers. I bet balls to bones that none of the bases that were raided had a TC down. Stupid stupid stupid.

It may be that I don't fully understand the rust building system. This is mainly from PvP which I really don't play, the majority of my hours played have been PvE (and RustEZ at that. I love these servers ).

I have observed 3 colours when using a building plan.

Blue - can place said structure. Occurs if you have building privilege OR there is no TC and no building privilege required. 

Red - Can't place structure. Either building blocked because too close to a monument or can't build because don't have privilege or terrain issues or it just doesn't fit (you get a message telling you the reason).

Orange - Don't have building privilege in someone else's TC range but can place twig floors (not foundations) on the external walls. Eg. Someone has a half wall inside their base, you can place a twig square or triangle floor off their base at half height. This is the twigging I refer to.

This is used in PvP extensively inside people's building privilege when they have a TC, mainly for raiding or stealing hence not cool for our PvE servers.

Maybe there is already a thing on RustEZ that prevents it on modded servers. I've never tried on RustEZ because I'm a bit of a goody goody and don't like to break rules. Not a rebel.

I guess if it only happens on Pure and you can't mod Pure then I apologise for the wasted time reading this entire thread